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  1. #1
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    Jan 2006

    Default Ed Collins asked me to share this

    He asked me to get a copy of this to Mr. Smith and Mr. Hill. I do not know either of these gentlemen so I thought they might see it if I posted it here:


    Thank you for your suggestion.

    However, as you are no doubt aware, the BOS does not typically respond to
    comments made during public discussion. It is not a rigid rule. Had Mr. Hill
    confined his remarks on "spending" to the alleged effects of the termination
    of the Town Administrator's contract. to his unsubstantiated interpretation
    "as a matter of Law" of the "without cause" provision of that contract, or
    even to his demand about the school budget (which in any event the BOS do
    not control), I would not have commented on his offerings, whatever I
    thought of them, as I did not comment during other presentations on the 9th
    and 16th, including written submissions. My remark -- "outburst" according
    to Mr. Smith -- was directed specifically to the unique aspect of his
    presentation, namely to his ill-founded, ignorant, and blatantly untrue
    remarks concerning the recent "judgment" in favor of Twenty Wayland and
    against the town and the Wayland Wastewater Management District Commission.

    First, neither Boschetto, nor Collins, nor Leard is in any manner
    responsible for that debacle. They inherited the current problem from
    predecessors. In addition, proceedings have not yet concluded in the trial
    court, there is no final judgment yet, so an appeal is not ripe, and there
    are currently pending post-trial proceedings. Mr. Hill knows full-well how
    to consult this information, if he chooses to do so. Apparently, he has
    not. Further, the case in its present posture, involves two aspects: there
    is the issue of damages for breach of contract -- that's the $1.2 million
    figure, but there is also a specific performance issue, that is, the town &
    WWMDC might have to provide Twenty Wayland with capacity to treat 45,000
    gallons of wastewater per day. That might cost an amount that makes the $1.2
    million damages judgment look small, and involves ongoing complex
    negotiations with the Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection
    with a view to the containing or eliminating of such costs. The Board of
    Selectmen (and Boschetto, Collins, and Leard in particular, along with
    others) are and have been heavily involved in such efforts, and indeed have
    had some successes. Mr. Hill's accusatory remarks, repeated several times,
    that he "hasn't heard any discussion whatsoever" about these issues prove
    only that he isn't listening or doesn't really care. His remarks on this
    litigation gratuitously and unfairly insult the current Board of Selectmen
    as a whole and its individual members, particularly the three who are his
    ostensible target, who are trying very hard to find a remedy for the
    citizens of Wayland to an unfortunate situation not of their making. Not
    only were Mr. Hill's remarks demeaning to the BOS and its individual
    members, they are needlessly quite dangerous to the possibilities of success
    for the benefit of Wayland's citizens. My brief remarks -- outburst, if you
    prefer -- to the effect that I have rarely heard so much nonsense in such a
    short period of time were directed to this aspect of Mr. Hill's screed. The
    only apology advisable is by Mr. Daniel Hill to the BOS and its individual
    members and to those Wayland residents he would recklessly mislead and, in
    fact, injure by his own mindless irresponsibility. Before he deigns again to
    launch intemperate personal attacks, it would be well if he knew what he is
    talking about. His irresponsible and nasty attack deserved immediate
    challenge, however brief. No apology here.

    I feel modestly certain that, upon consideration, you will agree.



    P.S. If you have their e-mall addresses, please forward a copy of this reply
    to Mr. Hill and Mr.Smith.

    -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Downs
    Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:55 AM
    To: Edward J. Collins
    Subject: Your comment last night


    I was watching the public comment at your meeting last night and your
    comment to a member of the public was incredibly disrespectful. The
    Board of Selectman used to be a group that was held in high esteem your
    action has tarnished that reputation. You should publicly apologize.


    Ben Downs

  2. #2
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    Dec 2005


    Hi Ben. Thanks for the posting - very interesting.

    I know I could probably find this on my own if I had the time to go searching, but do you have a link that points at the actual discourse between Hill, Smith, and Collins? I don't have the context that Collins "nonsense" comment was made in, so I'm not sure what his rather wordy and accusatory retort is referring to. Clearly Hill and/or Smith stepped on a nerve, and Collins is quick to point out that this is not his fault (First, neither Boschetto, nor Collins, nor Leard is in any manner
    responsible for that debacle. They inherited the current problem from
    ). Of course this is irrelevant as the incumbent not only inherits problems from predecessors, but also owns them. Collins should know this, and has no business throwing others under the bus. Anyway, I do appreciate the posting and would like to understand the background a bit more.

    Thanks again.

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    Jan 2006


    My email to Ed was a result of the last selectmen's meeting, September 16, 2013. You can see the relevant section of the meeting here:

    It takes place between 1:28.56 and 1:36.00

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    Dec 2005


    Once again, thank you for the information - you made it very easy for me to review the discussion. I hope that everyone that is reading this thread takes the time to watch the relevant 7 minutes that Ben points out above. Mr. Collins acted like a child in the schoolyard, laughing and mocking Mr. Hill. Mr. Smith points out that decorum was shattered, and that Mr. Collins outburst (and Mr. Leard's rude iPhone tapping during the public comment) are nothing short of a slap in the face to the voting public in Wayland. How much longer do we need to put up with this uncaring, self involved board?

    It's time to resign gentlemen. Please take the high road, and leave your seats to those who will treat the public with respect.

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    Jan 2006


    I sent the following reply to Mr. Collins and have not yet heard back....


    I do not know either Mr. Hill or Mr. Smith but I will endeavor to get
    your response to them.

    I think you missed my point. I know it is not typical of the BOS to
    respond to public comment. That is why your decision to break with
    custom, even if it is not a rigid rule, and address a member of the
    public so rudely is at issue. Your action certainly aided and abetted
    the lack of decorum that has characterized your recent meetings. If a
    member of your committee exhibits such behavior how can you expect
    anything more of your audience.

    I do not know anything about the substance of what Mr. Hill said or your
    commentary below. However, it strikes me as unbelievable that a comment
    from a stated uninformed member of the public could have any relevant
    bearing on the outcome of what appears to be a fairly technical
    lawsuit. I would point out that Mr. Leard was involved with the "issue"
    because he was on the BOS during his earlier tenure.

    The board of selectman are leaders in this town. You were elected to
    lead. You have not done that and refuse to take responsibility for your



    PS I have copied Mr. Leard on this even though I know he does not have
    time to read emails.

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    Mar 2008


    Interesting perspective, Ben.

    For anyone who wasn't there, I would encourage people to view the WayCam tapes of the last few BOS meetings - - and decide for themselves who is being rude.
    John Flaherty

    Any views expressed are NOT mine alone.
    Wayland Transparency - Facts Without Spin


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