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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Dieffenbach View Post
    Jeff B., I've let you know my specific objections to your language. You've failed to cite even one place where you think that I've gone astray.
    Read every post, Jeff, after the one I cited. There is something objectionable akin to what offends you in nearly everyone of them. I do not expect you to agree with this, much like I have a hard time seeing what roils you in the examples you give. What happened to the thick skin you claimed multiple times? Pointless to discuss. Just answer the questions, instead of debating this issue. I NEVER have a problem responding to you, regardless of how you write it or what you say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Dieffenbach View Post
    I encourage you to ask your question at the technology forum.
    Will you answer? You only say to ask it...

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    I'd hate for any community members to be thrown off by your error here--school vacation does NOT begin on Friday, April 16. Rather, it begins on Monday, April 19.
    Are you serious? Most people would agree that school vacation begins at the end of the school day on Friday. Check the school calendar (http://www.wayland.k12.ma.us/distric...s/cal09_10.pdf), it says exactly this. FYI, many people leave a day early as well. Thus, my point about scheduling. You could have done this after break and made it far more inclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Dieffenbach View Post
    I never said that I wouldn't answer questions from someone who didn't vote for me, John.
    You didn't have to.
    Here's what you said:

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    I'm under no obligation to respond to him on educational technology, and as I've said, don't intend to do so. I suspect that anyone that this upsets probably didn't vote for me last time around, so it's not as if I'm imperiling a future School Committee run.
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    The schools work to minimize conflicts among evening events. In my opinion, that work should not include consideration of the few (not many, I'm guessing) families who choose to pull their children out of a regularly scheduled school day for vacation reasons.

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    John, let me put it another way. I frequently answer questions from people whom I suspect didn't vote for me, and I plan to continue to do so. If you read the quote you cite, you'll note that I say only that I won't be surprised if people who don't support me continue that lack of support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Baron View Post
    Read every post, Jeff, after the one I cited. There is something objectionable akin to what offends you in nearly everyone of them.
    All that I ask is that you cite a few specific examples. I haven't been mischaracterizing things (as you do when you say things like "zero research") and I haven't been using imflammatory language of the sort that peppers your posts ("screwed," "freewheeling spending," "blow taxpayer money," "fleecing"). In my opinion, public debate is better without such bombast.

    Has every post of mine been perfect? Of course not. But they are far more civil than yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Dieffenbach View Post
    The schools work to minimize conflicts among evening events. In my opinion, that work should not include consideration of the few (not many, I'm guessing) families who choose to pull their children out of a regularly scheduled school day for vacation reasons.
    This does not explain why it couldn't be held the week after vacation. If the goal is minimize conflicts, that sure would be an easy way to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Dieffenbach View Post
    Has every post of mine been perfect? Of course not. But they are far more civil than yours.
    In your opinion. Your forgot that part, Jeff.

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    Help me improve, Jeff B. Tell me specifically where my posts in this thread have crossed the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Dieffenbach View Post
    Help me improve, Jeff B. Tell me specifically where my posts in this thread have crossed the line.
    It must be frustrating when someone doesn't answer your legitimate questions. I know how you feel....

    After all, here's the actual topic of this thread embodies as Post #25 in it's entirety, a direct response to Post #24 where you claim we can find the plan for the SCI. I've asked these legitimate questions how many times now without response?

    Without forcing anyone to slog through the rest of these documents, I have extracted the part of the final technology request for this year that pertains to the SCI (the subject of this thread). It reads:

    The Student Computer Initiative (SCI) is the beginning of a model 21st century school design in preparation for the opening of the new High School in 2012. The goal is to expand on teaching and instruction at the High School with online project based
    methodologies that are similar to those used in higher education and the workplace. The plan for FY11 is to implement student computer usage in a systematic way based on current efforts (see http://www.wayland.k12.ma.us/distric...strictTech.htm).

    A pilot-scale initiative will provide students with computers for in-school (not take-home) use from “pools” of computers available in selected departments. The pilot will integrate current and new classroom instruction with the use of a Course/Learning Management System/Virtual Learning Environment such as Moodle (http://moodle.org/). This will foster a movement to instruction that is rich with online resources and 21st century teaching and learning methodologies. Professional development for teachers will focus on the use of the Learning Management System to support the blended/hybrid/online learning integration.

    The objective of the pilot is to define a broader, comprehensive implementation plan for all of Wayland Public Schools, whether via the pool approach or a true student 1:1 initiative in which students would be assigned computers for school and home use. In addition, the District will experiment with student/family supplied computers with an eye towards having students supply the majority of computers, redeploying the District computers to those students who do not have or choose not to use student/family supplied computers. The District will also pursue private fund-raising, for instance from alumni and/or local/national companies, to partially offset the cost of the SCI.

    Implementation details:

    (a) Technology will be fully integrated into the Curriculum.
    (b) Professional Development for Teachers will include an introduction to the Learning Management System and the delivery of Hybrid Professional development over the summer focusing on 21st century teaching and learning methodologies. We will offer PD in-house, through the Learning Curve, VHS, and/or other online course options.
    (c) Five teachers will work together in an Inter-disciplinary Professional Learning Community to craft implementation plans and strategies that work well for future growth in our Wayland Community. They will document successes and failures and share with the entire staff.
    (d) All students involved will sign an acceptable use policy and take a pre and post assessment based on Technology Standards required by the State of MA for all graduating seniors.

    Ongoing cost:

    The assumptions that follow assume eventual 1:1 implementations at the MS and HS levels and computer pools at the ES level. Costs will be lower with a poolbased implementation at the MS and/or HS levels, with family supplied computers, with
    private-fundraising, and/or with a combination of these approaches. The Student Computer Initiative (SCI) has two distinct plans. In the Elementary Schools, the plan is to maintain two computer labs and eventually a pool of five computers in each classroom for a consistent ‘workshop model’ integration. This represents 380 classroom computers and 130 lab computers for Claypit Hill, Happy Hollow and Loker Schools. If we reach that goal, the 5-year replacement cycle would be $102,000/year.
    An eventual 1:1 SCI implementation (the high cost alternative) would see 900 computers at the High School and 600 at the Middle School. The 5-year replacement cycle for such an implementation would be $300,000/year.

    Most of what is written above is high-level summarizations. So, my question all along has been around the implementation plan associated with the SCI. Seems pretty light to me, as suspected. Under implementation details shown above, here's my questions (the letter in brackets refers to the points of the implementation plan):

    (a) What does that mean? This is a 500,000-ft. sentence with no detail.
    (b) Will this summer PD/training be required of all teahcers, or optional? If required, is there an additional cost(s) to Wayland in the form of compensation, fees for training programs, etc. If optional, how can we be assured this training will occur such that this program is ready to go come day #1 of school next year so that the computers are being used right away?
    (c) Which five teachers? How are/were they selected? Again, will there be additional compensation afforded these teachers for this extra work? If so, how much? What other resources (people, materials, training, etc.) will be required for them? How much will they cost?
    (d) Nothing substantive, except I can't see why the SCI is required for this? Need to understand this assessment requirement from the State before I can ask anything real here...

    My bigger question is, why can't we look at what others have done and model our plans based on what has worked in other places instead of re-inventing the wheel here, all the while spending precious dollars that are probably better utilized elsewhere? For example, look at Wellesley (a peer town), which has already worked on this. Amongst other resources, check out http://www.wellesley.k12.ma.us/progr...ech/index.html and look under the Core Curriculum link. It has detailed plans for how technology is used at each level of their school system. Why not meet with them, understand what works and what doesn't, and then build off that? Simply view the link above (http://www.wayland.k12.ma.us/distric...strictTech.htm) after reading through Wellesley's plans and realize how embarassingly little detail our own implemetation of technology has.

    Before spending money on the SCI and then figuring out the plan, how about figuring out the plan and then asking for the resources? Seems like that's what the FINCOM concluded as well by slashing this request. I'd say any money spent this year on this upcoming FY is foolish given our lack of preparedness as evidenced above. I'd advocate for removal of any dollars in the capital request related to SCI at TM.

    Just one man's opinion based on what has been posted. Interested in others...

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    For those who were not able to attend, Wayland Public Schools Director of Technology Leisha Simon and her team gave a great presentation on educational technology at the Middle School last evening. A combination of prepared remarks, short videos, and Q&A on the topic of where we've been and where we're headed made for an informative session. The presentation materials will be posted online shortly--as soon as they are available, I'll let this forum know. In addition, the "Technology Information Exchange" was recorded by WayCAM--as soon as their schedule is updated to include the showing of this recording, I'll note that as well.

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    man oh man...maybe you guys should just get together and Fight...you could schedule a boxing match or maybe a MMA fight...we'd give you guys ample time to train...you could track your progress here on the website...and we could have it sanctioned by the state...and probably raise some money for the town while we're at it...
    Side note: I used to work for a large (The Largest actually) independent finance company in the world...back in the hayday when No Child Left Behind was a hot topic...I dealt with a ton of Charter Schools and Public Schools across the county about this type of situation...in terms of Notebooks for the students...it's a waste of money...as someone previously mentioned...by the time the 9th grader gets to be a senior...the laptop they have will be "Obsolete"...and the town will be left holding old computers...and will have no way of getting rid of them (Environmental issues)...
    I understand that the burden shifting back to the families is somewhat controversial...but just think...if a child decides to play hockey or football or baseball...there are some expenses that come along with that...(Skates, equipment etc..) and with the way computers are priced now a days...you can get a 10" HP notebook for under $300.00...and the student will have that/own that etc...I probably don't even know what I'm talking about or if this is what you guys are discussing...but I thought it was funny that you two went on and on...

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    Here's some additional information about education technology in Wayland, including the "Technology Information Exchange" presentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Dieffenbach View Post
    Here's some additional information about education technology in Wayland, including the "Technology Information Exchange" presentation.
    What applications will students be running on the hardware and infrastructure being acquired? I reviewed all three presentations without encountering an answer to this question; did I miss something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Bernstein View Post
    What applications will students be running on the hardware and infrastructure being acquired? I reviewed all three presentations without encountering an answer to this question; did I miss something?
    I hope the absence of a response doesn't mean that this is one of those "let's buy a bunch of cool new hardware" acquisitions. The value is provided by the applications; if there's no plan that identifies the applications that will be used and describes how these applications will provide educational value, then the results will likely be disappointing and the return on investment will likely be low.

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    Many (but not all) of the applications are spelled out on slide 5 of the aforementioned presentation. Additional information is on the "Technology Around the District" page on the WPS site.

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