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Thread: Senate Election, Brown vs. Coakley, January 19

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  1. #1
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    Default Senate Election, Brown vs. Coakley, January 19

    This isn’t as important as the school budget, but let’s have our own election here. How about a week of discussion first and then cast our ballots for senator here next weekend before the real election Tuesday.

    To start the discussion:

    Scott Brown

    I’ve a friend in NY that’s a politician and he’s made some interesting points. He says, “Politics is a funny business – In a given legislature, the powers that be (those who actually influence legislation and spending) are perfectly happy if other legislators (especially new ones) do nothing of consequence and don’t interfere (concentrating instead on keeping their constituents happy). Our representatives can do a bad job, or no job at all, and their bosses won’t mind. The electorate can’t really tell so they may promote/elect that person to the next level.”

    I’m politically independent and libertarian leaning, so I should be sympathetic to Brown’s “small government” stance, but unfortunately, I feel the previous paragraph’s thesis fits him (even more so since he’s a marginalized Republican), and I have to ask, “What has he really done?” For us? For anybody? Did he get the explicitly discriminatory taxation of high Mass Pike tolls reduced? Did he get the State’s “41B” affordable housing/town zoning over-riding regulation modified? Or what?

    I went to his website and find that he has a family, is in the National Guard and is for lower taxation, but there was no great list of past accomplishments and no prescription of how we’re going to lower taxes given the current state of the government’s finances. I was almost embarressed for him, it’s like he’s an amateur, not a real player and not able to show that he understands what it means to be senatorial, and he’s only raised $400k. One can only hope that by the next time he runs for statewide office he will have focussed more on doing something that we can point to and say, “Good job”.

    Martha Coakley

    Honestly, I didn’t know anything about Martha Coakley, but comparing her biography to Brown’s is striking. Lawyer, Middlesex Assistant District Attorney, then District Attorney, special commisions, state-wide Attorney General. Always prosecuting, apply the law in specific cases. Legal associations’ head, many awards, always speaking, writing, lecturing… a much different feeling of accomplishment. Not an amateur, lawyers work in the real world and deal with laws and their effects every day. And she’s raised $4m so she will be on TV this week saying the things senators are supposed to say. Of course, I don’t believe her every word, but to me she seems more fit for the job, more senatorial.

    What do you think?
    (And don’t forget to vote.)

    donBustin@verizon.net

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    Default SUpport Marth Coakley

    I urge a vote for Martha Coakley. These two candidates are very different and voters have a clear choice. 1. Scott Brown has been Wayland's State Senator for several terms and there is not much to show for it. While our town's State Representative, Tom Conroy, has been incredibly proactive and has brought real resources and solutions to Wayland and the rest of his district, Scott Brown has served primarily as a place holder and nag, practicing politics mostly by press release. 2. Unfortunately, Brown has increasingly adopted some of the most right-wing, fringe positions on many key issues. He has recently adopted even more radical views in order to gain traction in national right-wing fundraising. 3. By contrast, Martha Coakley has served the Commonwealth with distinction, including election as Middlesex District Attorney and more recently as our Attorney General. These are some of the most demanding offices in state government, where everyday she has had to make judgments about major issues and cases that affect the well-being of all of us. She is not a brutish partisan, but moderate, approachable, thoughtful on issues, and interested in pursuing the discussion and the back and forth that leads to better and innovative solutions, which is what U.S. Senators are meant to do.

    I urge a vote for Martha Coakley next Tuesday, January 19. If you'd like a Coakley lawn sign, contact me at 508-653-3685.

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    Default Boy am I confused

    (but you know that) I was going to drop in and ask why no discussion here? No interest? No importance? Only a Senator? Was going to ask if someone wouldn’t make the case for Brown. And today in the paper, lotsa letters “for Brown”. One even by someone who frequents this discussion forum and makes posts pretty regularly and who I’ve become somewhat sympathetic too. And I go “what the…” Why not here?

    Certainly the paper has a bigger audience and these people must be hoping to influence the election or want to show their support from some other reason. But I can’t help but think that their “not posting here” is because their political position would then be subject to rebuttal (argument or discussion).

    In Brown’s case, all the letters only mentioned what Brown believes, not what he’s done. Even Brown’s own literature only mentions his beliefs. Wouldn’t the job be to translate beliefs into actions/deeds? Well?

    Now, don’t think I’m all for the Democrats, like the one person who posted above. In the Massachusetts legislature, they certainly are a problem, and since he mentioned Tom Conroy, lets just say I’m not overwhelmed by his accomplishments either, but that waits for another election.

    On a “bigger” issue, I was thinking of proposing different themed threads, hoping to get more involvement in our little discussion forum (like I believe Alan was doing with the movies). Even thought about having more polls. (We could have one now asking whether people thought the “School Administrators” should take a budget hit. Then we could know more about what people actually thought.) But if people don’t participate, and I’m get the feeling that people just might not, then it’s all fruitless. That’s what I don’t understand, this forum is a great thing, but to make it work, it needs to be interesting. And interesting is people saying things. Course it would be better if important people were here saying important things, but until we can convince them it’s worth their time, we’re stuck with… well

    Can no one tell me why I should vote for Scott Brown? Something he’s done, not that he believes blah, blah, blah, and will provide an enlightened counterweight to all we find horrible about Washington?

    donBustin@verizon.net

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    This certainly has been an informative discussion, very helpful to my deciding how to vote.

    Now’s the time to vote, so please vote here too, if only for practice and to see how it works. It doesn’t record your name so nobody will know you’re on the wrong side of the vote. And hey, you can be one of the first folks in town to actually vote electronically. An admittedly humble beginning.

    Thanks for caring,

    donBustin@verizon.net

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    Here's how Scott Brown's vote varied among the towns in his very vertically-shaped State Senate district.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Dieffenbach View Post
    Here's how Scott Brown's vote varied among the towns in his very vertically-shaped State Senate district.

    Pretty sure Wayland being the lowest (but still impressive) % of Brown voters paints our electorate as a bit out of touch. Did 55% of the people really believe that Martha would do a better job based on the dismally managed (and that's being polite) campaign she ran?

    Why are we surprised, though, when Wayland's leaders are willing to have save three full time secretaries instead of maxing out teachers in our schools! Sounds like a plan Martha would endorse whole-heartedly!

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