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    This seems like such a strange point you’re...

    This seems like such a strange point you’re making, the purpose of which seems to be to water down the real issue.

    The Open Meeting Law was created for a reason. We should have no instances of it...
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    I can’t think of any reason to hypothesize "that...

    I can’t think of any reason to hypothesize "that perhaps Wayland doesn't "lead" in actual OML violations”, other than a wish that this not be the case, when all indications are that we do. Why should...
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    157 www.WaylandTransparency.com

    157
    www.WaylandTransparency.com
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    Three years ago, Laura Crimaldi, director, New...

    Three years ago, Laura Crimaldi, director, New England First Amendment Coalition at the time, referred to Wayland as "The Open Meeting Law capital of the Bay State".

    It has only gotten worse since...
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    Kim, Actually, I don't believe that you HAVE...

    Kim,
    Actually, I don't believe that you HAVE answered that question. It has been brought up more than once, but I have never seen a reply from you.

    It's not a personal attack - it's a fair...
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    Kim, not sure why you skipped over the "full...

    Kim, not sure why you skipped over the "full reply" to my last post that you implied you'd be back with.

    The heart of it?
    The heart of the matter is this:
    1. Over a 3 1/2 year period during...
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    Two points: 1. Anyone paying attention knows...

    Two points:
    1. Anyone paying attention knows that Tony and Donna NEVER attempted to defund the schools. They both have kids in the schools. Tony's wife works for the schools. They are passionate...
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    Kim, I'm sorry, but I have to say this. You...

    Kim, I'm sorry, but I have to say this.
    You appear to be jumping through hoops to make this seem worse than it is. From the AG's words: "we acknowledge that Mr. Boschetto appears to have been...
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    Kim, this is a reply to your post #13 above. The...

    Kim, this is a reply to your post #13 above. The post is already so long with all those quotes, that I thought it best to not repeat it here.

    There's a lot here to respond to, but I want to start...
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    It certainly does! And for that, we can thank...

    It certainly does!
    And for that, we can thank Tony Boschetto, Donna Bouchard, Shawn Kinney and many others, including many of those Enlightened Loker Parents who began to publicly question what was...
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    Actually, we have an equal number of complaints...

    Actually, we have an equal number of complaints to determinations. Every complaint results in a determination unless the AG finds that the complaint was filed too late, and since, as you've astutely...
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    156 (Click the chart for larger version) ...

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    According to the Attorney General's office, Wayland has broken the Open Meeting Law 12 times, which is twice as much as all of our peer towns combined.
    ...
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    Reporting facts ≠ slinging mud. "Immature, petty...

    Reporting facts ≠ slinging mud.
    "Immature, petty behavior" = personal attacks as a way to deflect attention from irrefutable facts. Plus, it's mean-spirited as hell.
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    However one chooses to interpret it, defend it or...

    However one chooses to interpret it, defend it or spin it, one irrefutable fact remains:
    The Attorney General’s office has found Wayland to be in violation of the law 12 times - twice as much as all...
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    Ooops, they did it again!

    School Committee breaks Open Meeting Law again
    http://www.waylandtransparency.com/index.php

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    Same As It Ever Was
    Same As It Ever Was
    Same As It Ever Was
    Same As It Ever Was
  16. Not me. The "hours of endless drivel" is the...

    Not me.
    The "hours of endless drivel" is the part where residents get to voice their concerns, ask their questions and discuss the pros and cons of a given article. It is interactive. It is...
  17. Thank you, Kim.

    Thank you, Kim.
  18. I find it sadly ironic that the divide in Wayland...

    I find it sadly ironic that the divide in Wayland extends even to articles like this one.
    On the one hand, there are those who see exactly what the author is talking about and have observed that...
  19. I think that's the whole point of the article -...

    I think that's the whole point of the article - it's because they are "mean girls".



    True. But this is diluting her point. There's a difference between not including or disagreeing, and being...
  20. I couldn't disagree more. First of all, to say...

    I couldn't disagree more. First of all, to say she has alienated "roughly half the population of Wayland" is to suggest that ALL women in Wayland are that way. The truth is, it's a very small number...
  21. The author speaks with Emily Rooney -...

    The author speaks with Emily Rooney - http://wgbhnews.org/post/mean-moms-secret-world-suburbs .
    It's kind of pathetic, but this stuff really does go on in our little Waytown.
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    I agree that Dennis allowing things to be taken...

    I agree that Dennis allowing things to be taken out of sequence in the capital budget caused a lot of confusion. I think this approach should be avoided in the future.

    A point that Bonnie Gossels...
  23. Got GOT? Don't go to Town Meeting without it!

    WaylandTransparency has produced a Glossary of Term for Town Meeting, which you can download and print HERE.
    Bring it with you to the meeting to help with confusing terms like Debt Exclusion, Debt...
  24. The site to which this post refers is...

    The site to which this post refers is WaylandTransparency.com

    You can learn more about the issue that they're not going to speak about HERE.
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    Not to beat a dead horse, but it was not me who...

    Not to beat a dead horse, but it was not me who brought it up. My question was asked for that purpose. She brought it up and implied that it was a concern of mine. It wasn't. In a later post, she...
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    Thanks, Jeff. However, Kim said this: It...

    Thanks, Jeff.
    However, Kim said this:


    It was never one of my points. I never brought it up, never mentioned it.
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    Again, I'm puzzled. Why do you keep bringing this...

    Again, I'm puzzled. Why do you keep bringing this up? I said nothing about the 10% tax increase.



    Things are being handled more transparently now, that's for sure. And we can thank the OPEB...
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    I really wish I had more time to respond to this,...

    I really wish I had more time to respond to this, but here are a few things:


    Who’s complaining about the tax increase?



    Sure wish you could demonstrate the misrepresentation, because the...
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    Are you experienced?

    Not only the name of a classic Jimi Hendrix album from many years ago, this is also the question our incumbents are asking of the new candidates running for Selectman and School Committee this year....
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    Lawrie, There are quite a few documents, a...

    Lawrie,

    There are quite a few documents, a deposition, and a chronology of the Wastewater issues, posted on WaylandTransparency - http://www.waylandtransparency.com/wastewater.php .
    Hope this...
  31. More information can be found here...

    More information can be found here.
    In addition to court documents and correspondence from our former Town Administrator and others, there is also a Timeline of events that outlines what happened...
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    I provide it for perspective. If we're going to...

    I provide it for perspective.
    If we're going to be talking about having these 3 selectmen pay the legal fees in what is a yet to be decided OML complaint, then it would only be fair that we ask 4...
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    Good point about reimbursing for legal expenses,...

    Good point about reimbursing for legal expenses, Carl.
    So, I assume then, that you would agree with going back to Steve Correia, Sue Pope, John Bladon and Tom Fay and getting them to reimburse the...
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    Things are not always as they seem. I have a...

    Things are not always as they seem.
    I have a high degree of confidence that this was not a violation of the Open Meeting Law. I completely understand how it could seem that way on the surface, but...
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    No, Ben. I got your point. Here is a link...

    No, Ben. I got your point.
    Here is a link directly to the WayCam video:
    http://waycamtv.pegcentral.com/player.php?video=55ca049d6c02425dfafc699b86f42a87
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    Better yet, get it from the horse's mouth -...

    Better yet, get it from the horse's mouth - http://waycamtv.pegcentral.com/player.php?video=55ca049d6c02425dfafc699b86f42a87
    At the last meeting, Ed Collins addresses this issue.
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    Interesting perspective, Ben. For anyone who...

    Interesting perspective, Ben.

    For anyone who wasn't there, I would encourage people to view the WayCam tapes of the last few BOS meetings - http://waycamtv.pegcentral.com - and decide for...
  38. Not curious at all.

    It's called "integrity", Jeff.
    Here're a couple of definitions:

    From Google:
    Integrity is a concept of consistency of actions, values, methods, measures, principles, expectations, and outcomes....
  39. By all means - watch the video....

    By all means - watch the video.
    The part about the termination begins at 27:20, though it is also referrred to at the beginning of the meeting, when Mr. Correia states that the Chair did not respond...
  40. Relevant to what, Ben?

    Relevant to what, Ben?
  41. Understanding what REALLY happened & why re: termination of the Town Administrator

    I realize that nearly all of the posters here are firmly entrenched in their belief that the 3 Selectmen broke the Open Meeting Law and that what they did was tantamount to treason, however, I'm sure...
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    No, you're not missing anything, Lawrie. Those...

    No, you're not missing anything, Lawrie. Those opposed to Town Center had absolutely nothing to do with this.
    The Board of Selectmen at that time and the Town Administrator had everything to do with...
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    Dave, you might find the answers here:...

    Dave, you might find the answers here: http://www.waylandtransparency.com/index.php

    On the Wastewater page, you'll find the court rulings and other documents pertinent to the case.
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    Carl, thanks for posting this. I'm puzzled,...

    Carl, thanks for posting this.
    I'm puzzled, though as to why you put the word "friends" in quotes when referring to WVN.
    If not for WVN, we would not even know about this. We don't have to like the...
  45. As a matter of fact, I DO really want the Wayland that Tony and Donna will bring.

    Here's why:


    • Tony's & Donna's experience, expertise, and qualifications shone through exceptionally well at Candidates' Night. The difference between Tony and Donna and their respective...
  46. I can't think of a better way to advocate for the...

    I can't think of a better way to advocate for the education of the students than to make sure that the hard earned money of their parents is not being squandered. The more we spend our money wisely...
  47. It was nice talking with you yesterday, Ramah. ...

    It was nice talking with you yesterday, Ramah.

    I'm quite sure that Shawn is not on a witch hunt, but that he just wants some answers. I think that he wants the same thing that you and I and...
  48. Terrific letter by Shawn Kinney in today's Crier

    Shawn has once again done a terrific job of bringing up a subject and asking questions that many wouldn't ask about the schools' illegal bank accounts.

    It doesn't seem to be posted on WickedLocal...
  49. Another Crier letter on the audit...

    Another Crier letter on the audit, this one by George Harris.
  50. Very clever, Jeff. Don't put words in my mouth.

    Very clever, Jeff.
    Don't put words in my mouth.
  51. No. Do you (or does anyone) think that using...

    No.

    Do you (or does anyone) think that using clout to save one's butt and avoid embarrassment is something that doesn't happen every day in local and national governments, in companies, in...
  52. The points I've made are not at all off topic....

    The points I've made are not at all off topic. His letter concerns the audit and George's concern that someone may have used clout to derail the audit request. My points are about the audit, why we...
  53. Jeff, I'm not sure what compelled you to point...

    Jeff, I'm not sure what compelled you to point out that Kent George is a Republican, but I'm glad you did, because this gives me the opportunity to address a misconception that some may hold - that...
  54. "clout" and "derail" do not strongly imply...

    "clout" and "derail" do not strongly imply wrong-doing.
    And if he had "none of the above", he'd have no letter.


    Now who's smearing?



    You say that's NOT fair game. Yet you fly it out there...
  55. There is no comparison between "have you stopped...

    There is no comparison between "have you stopped beating your wife?", and "wondering if some current or former School Committee members used some clout..."

    The first points the finger at the...
  56. And therein lies my point. Questioning ≠...

    And therein lies my point.
    Questioning ≠ attacking/smearing.
  57. After re-reading Mr. George's letter several...

    After re-reading Mr. George's letter several times just to be sure, I would say that he has not "accused", "attacked" or "smeared" anyone.
    He has asked questions - something that more and more...
  58. Nick, I share your enthusiasm in thanking the...

    Nick,

    I share your enthusiasm in thanking the petitioners for all their hard work in bringing Wayland's budget under control. We can also thank them for discovering the OPEB situation, as well as...
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    This is a brilliant suggestion. In addition to...

    This is a brilliant suggestion.
    In addition to the energy produced, these "solar roofs" can also produce shade, as Kim has pointed out, as well as shelter from rain and snow for shoppers.

    Done...
  60. The simple truth. That's enough to get the "OMG"...

    The simple truth. That's enough to get the "OMG" response from most people. As well it should be. Because it IS outrageous.

    Here's how things are going in Wellesley:...
  61. You're right. It shouldn't have happened. It's...

    You're right. It shouldn't have happened.
    It's just interesting that you defend virtually any and all criticism of any town board or town official, and when something really blatantly irresponsible...
  62. It's not so much that this is a "reduction in...

    It's not so much that this is a "reduction in taxes". It's that we will NO LONGER BE OVERCHARGED. That's an important distinction.

    Our town OVERCHARGED TAXPAYERS BY $6,000,000 over a 4 year...
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    As more studies, analysis and money is devoted to...

    As more studies, analysis and money is devoted to this, there is a glaring truth that persists:
    "Over time, sleep deprivation leads to serious consequences for academic achievement, social behavior,...
  64. Actually, it IS a matter of opinion, because of...

    Actually, it IS a matter of opinion, because of your suggestion that we've had "years if not decades of examination".
    The Abrahams Report suggests otherwise. So does common sense.
    I had seen no...
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    Yes. ......

    Yes.




    ......
  66. And many thanks to YOU Tony, Donna, Andrea and...

    And many thanks to YOU Tony, Donna, Andrea and Kent, as well as everyone else who has done so much and worked so hard to bring positive change and sustainable financial solutions, as well as...
  67. Our schools' budgeting policies and procedures...

    Our schools' budgeting policies and procedures that led to illegal bank accounts and inappropriate movement of funds is seriously flawed. Let's take a look at it.

    Vote YES on Article 28.
  68. Nick, thanks for the clarification. FinCom has...

    Nick, thanks for the clarification.

    FinCom has come around quite a bit in the last couple of weeks and is supporting many of these solutions. I give them a lot of credit for listening to and...
  69. Nick, I agree wholeheartedly. Donna, Tony and...

    Nick, I agree wholeheartedly. Donna, Tony and Kent have done a remarkable job working with the FinCom. And it is very refreshing indeed to see the FinCom's openness to the suggestions and ideas that...
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    No. I guess I was taking "shunned" to the next...

    No.
    I guess I was taking "shunned" to the next level and was thinking more about the people who were screwed over by some of the SOSers.
    Like the candidate who an SOS supporter tried to get fired...
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    Umm....... Maybe that I think she's wrong.....

    Umm.......
    Maybe that I think she's wrong.....
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    How disingenuous! Jeff, you know that what I...

    How disingenuous!
    Jeff, you know that what I said above does not accuse Kim of any such thing, and yet you deliberately imply that it does.

    Yours is exactly the type of post that is a...
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    According to Merriam-Webster: Definition of...

    According to Merriam-Webster:
    Definition of PARTICIPATION

    1: the act of participating
    2: the state of being related to a larger whole

    However, according to our Board of Selectmen, this does...
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    Perhaps in some parallel universe this would be...

    Perhaps in some parallel universe this would be true, but as I've pointed out above, there are many people in town who have paid a stiff price for simply expressing a different opinion.



    I...
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    What does this mean?

    What does this mean?
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    Since this was about our elected and appointed...

    Since this was about our elected and appointed officials doing the right thing, we're off on a bit of a tangent here, but I did want to comment on this.

    I would strongly recommend against people...
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    Actually, there are several recent events that...

    Actually, there are several recent events that suggest otherwise:
    • The election in which a sitting SC member of 9 years nearly lost to an unknown new-comer.
    • The overwhelming support for an audit...
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    1. Whether or not an issue is controversial has...

    1. Whether or not an issue is controversial has no bearing on the "inherent badness" of a board's propensity to vote unanimously.

    2. The information they receive is of course all the same, but...
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    Actually, it kind of is. There are several...

    Actually, it kind of is.
    There are several explanations for why a board would, more often than not, vote unanimously on a variety of things. Unfortunately, the most likely ones fall in the...
  80. Great Moments in Wayland Finances' History

    This, from Wayland Transparency:


    http://www.waylandtransparency.com/priorities.php

    Topic:
    How have the Wayland schools past policies and mismanagement led to the situation we're in today?...
  81. Yes, of course.

    Yes, of course.
  82. I assure you that such is not the case. Most...

    I assure you that such is not the case. Most people I know who have read it, were very impressed with Dr. Kinney's assessment and very appreciative of the courage he displayed in writing it.
    ...
  83. BTW, the Abrahams Report can be found here:...

    BTW, the Abrahams Report can be found here:
    http://www.waylandtransparency.com/index.php
  84. It is not surprising that former School Committee...

    It is not surprising that former School Committee member Jeff Dieffenbach would get defensive over some of the criticisms of Dr. Kinney, since he was on the committee at the time in question.
    ...
  85. Terrific Crier article on school finances by School Committee member

    "Considering everything except encumbered amounts, our schools had excess funds of $742,681, $1,169,824 and $1,229,723 for FY09, FY10 and FY11, respectively. One practice of “memo” carry forwards was...
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    This is brilliant. Thanks for posting it, Dave.

    This is brilliant.
    Thanks for posting it, Dave.
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    The Anthony Hopkins role that this brings to mind...

    The Anthony Hopkins role that this brings to mind is just really disturbing.
  88. I like the marketing idea. Here's taking it a...

    I like the marketing idea.

    Here's taking it a step further.....

    You know how once in awhile you'll see an advertisement on TV or in The New Yorker that is sponsored by a country's own...
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    Dave has touched on what, IMHO, is THE biggest...

    Dave has touched on what, IMHO, is THE biggest problem in Wayland.

    We need to acknowledge our mistakes - not just the cursory, "Oh, sure, we're not perfect, but just look at our reputation". But...
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    You're missing the point. Forget Wayland. Where...

    You're missing the point. Forget Wayland. Where ever you move that has a public school system, you pay for it and "it" knows that you will pay for it whether you believe they're doing a good job or...
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    The difference is publicly-held GE is optional....

    The difference is publicly-held GE is optional. People can buy shares in it if they think it's a good investment or sell shares if they don't like the direction it's going. "Publicly-held" public...
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    Here's another: A fund (or something similar)...

    Here's another:
    A fund (or something similar) that does not have a designated purpose.

    And that's the definition I'm referring to.
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    Show me the money!

    I agree.

    It's a crime that we don't teach at least one other language from day one.

    I disagree that it's about the money, however. It's about proper prioritization.
    Some of the things on...
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    Yes, I'd say more so. How do you determine...

    Yes, I'd say more so.



    How do you determine when they are capable of mastering them?



    Small systems resist change, too. But that can't stop us from working towards changing big and small...
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    Great article, Dave. Thanks for posting. The...

    Great article, Dave. Thanks for posting.

    The educational system in America is long overdue for a major overhaul.

    The fact that we've slipped so far behind other industrialized countries of the...
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    I understand why someone would want privacy in...

    I understand why someone would want privacy in voting. That's pretty self-evident.

    What I don't understand, with one exception, what reason someone would have for wanting to proclaim to the world...
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    I didn't notice.

    I didn't notice.
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    No, I meant to say THE answer, not MY answer. The...

    No, I meant to say THE answer, not MY answer. The question to which I was referring was about marketing & promoting on the floor of the hall, which is prohibited.

    Now, if you want to debate...
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    Another way to word that would be "the question...

    Another way to word that would be "the question is whether or not we should allow people to promote and market their cause on the floor of the hall", because that is effectively what this would be...
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    The analogy stands. Whether it's about...

    The analogy stands.

    Whether it's about transportation or anything else, the bottom line is we've gone to the trouble of securing a state of the art, efficient method for voting, so to not use it...
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